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pizza2004 · Vortininja Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 266

Building on zear's topic about level achievements, we could make various achievements available from each game.

Although this would be a bit more difficult to apply to mods, it could be done.

You would have various standard type of achievements, and if we ever implemented online play, then it could be tied to your profile and show how good a person is at Keen.

Lava89 · Vorticon Elite Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 851

Well beating each game could be one. I don't think they have to feats of gaming either, they could be random. Like "lead a Vorticon commander into a pit without shooting him, in Keen 1".

tulip · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:16 Post subject:

Beating all the levels is a solid suggestion, as you never have to beat every level (well keen5 comes closest to that) to beat the game.

The second suggestion is running into difficulties fast, as we aim to support mods, and you know this idea is strictly limited to the original level. Even levelpacks wouldn't work with that one. So I vote for achievements that enhance gameplay possibilities on both original and custom episodes.

To sum up we have now 2 suggestions:

- Getting all points achievement
- Beating all levels achievement

I'd add these:

- Beating on easy, normal and hard (as a simple one)
- Playing without saving (inlevel/at all)
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zear · Grunt Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 11

This is probably only relevant to keen1, but I had a lot of fun beating the game without using a pogo (except for that one moment in the final level where you have to use it to jump in to the last room.
Also I found it challenging to not use your gun thoughout the whole keen1. I haven't tested that on all the levels yet, but so far I was able to finish every level I tried without shooting (again you would be forced to use the gun to cut the rope in the last level).

As for the online stats, I never liked the idea of "leveling" to show others how cool you are. I think the achievements should stay for local games only. Just an impulse to motivate you to continue playing the game after you've beaten the main quest.

Edit:
This was in the trac ticket for my original idea, but how about adding a "devs' time" for every level, which would be some very tough (but not impossible) to beat level completion time one of the devs of cg scored.
This is present in a lot of games, Duke Nukem 3D for example.
After beating such a time a new achievement would be unlocked.

pizza2004 · Vortininja Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 266

zear · Grunt Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 11

DaVince · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:25 Post subject:

X-Moto has shortest time submission and trying to beat the best time, but that just results in nobody ever beating the best time at some point or another. It also means you would have to add networking and all that.
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DHeadshot · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 17:32 Post subject:

What could the achievements unlock? Would you get a new sprite for Keen or the ability to play as another character or something? Or new weapons or a higher pogo stick?
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zear · Grunt Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Posts: 11

DaVince · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 20:48 Post subject:

In Steam and XBox Live, achievements work because they measure your skills against other peoples' and friends' skills. If you're ever going to incorporate something similar in CG, it has to have an actual online experience to it, and then you have to wonder whether it's really worth it.
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tulip · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 22:04 Post subject:

Fluiq · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 15:19 Post subject:

I think achievements are a good idea, though I think they should be more about what secrets you have found/score you've made/and levels you've completed.

I don't like the idea for having achievements with finishing the levels fast or finishing the levels without gun/pogo.

It takes a lot more work to have online achievements.

But I think achievements are always useful to see what you've actually found/accomplished in the game. To see if you've beaten the game 100%.

StupidBunny · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 18:01 Post subject:

Actually, I think it would be interesting for the achievements to accommodate all different gameplay styes, so that there would be achievements for item collection, speedrunning, pacifist runs, finding secrets, and so forth, as well as more basic achievements for things like finding secret levels, completing all the levels, etc.

Plus super badass achievement for finishing Keen 6 without getting a single point item. Grin

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Fluiq · Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 16:44 Post subject:

BlueGasMask · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 18:12 Post subject:

I'm a good shopper, just gimme some dimensions, the achievement names and descriptions. it would also be great if you could give me the preferred file extension.

EDIT: this post is now my dump for my ideas.

ACHIEVEMENTS:

ICONS:

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