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Stealthy71088
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 Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 0:42 Post subject: High Score Competition with patch |
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So I've been thinking.....
The semi-official ck challenge has kinda died down. There have been multiple variations of death counter runs, and they have been interesting, but for the most part they've been just standard playthroughs.
I think this might be more interesting....
Lemm made a patch for ck 1-3 sometime ago that makes it so that if keen dies in a level, his score will be reset to what it was before he started the level. As a result, using the patch means that there is a finite number of points that can be gained in a playthrough, assuming you don't abuse the teleporter to the secret level. Here's the patch.
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#keen death A, reset score
%patch $427D $66 $81 $06 $E2 $6E $00 $08 $00 $00 $66 $A1 $00 $AF $66 $A3 $CA $AA $90 $90
#keen death B, reset score
%patch $42BB $66 $81 $06 $E2 $6E $00 $08 $00 $00 $66 $A1 $00 $AF $66 $A3 $CA $AA $90 $90
#level load, save temp score
%patch $4BAE $66 $A1 $CA $AA $66 $A3 $00 $AF $66 $33 $C0 $66 $A3 $35 $51 $66 $A3 $3E $56 $A3 $14 $5B $90
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So I propose a new competition. Using this patch, we play through a keen trying to get as many points as possible. Currently, I don't think there's a galaxy or dreams version of the patch, which is unfortunate because a galaxy run would be a lot more exciting.
Rules:
| Quote: | -Play using the patch
-saving is only allowed to pause mid run if you want to take a break.
Otherwise, saving and reloading upon dying is not allowed.
-Levels that have multiple exits can only be completed once. After that, you can't reenter them.
-If you run a galaxy game, difficulty should be hard.
-Play until you reach a game over or you finish the game.
-No practice runs of particular levels allowed. HOWEVER, you are allowed to submit as many runs as you like, so if you think you can do better, try again! Happy
-Use of resources like the level maps on the keen wiki is allowed.
-You are allowed to use a level to farm free lives. Since the patch means that the lives won't be reflected in your score, I see no reason to disallow this.
-Obviously cheats aren't allowed.
-Impossible Pogo Trick is allowed and encouraged.
-Impossible bullet trick in keen 6 is allowed.
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I think game play will be a lot more strategic now. Getting a high score will be a lot more high risk high reward. You'll have to weigh the huge score increase of the teddy bear with the risk losing your score for the level by running through the gauntlet of death traps.
I also think the competition will be a lot more competitive than the normal death run. In easier games like keen1, every point will count, which means people will have very close scores.
Anyway, Lemm, if you read this, could you PLEASE make a version of the patch for galaxy?
Edit:
For Keen 1 I got a score of 403300.
There's a total of 426700 in the game, and of that,
as far as I can tell, only 425200 is possible to get.
So I got 95% of the collectibles.
The run was almost flawless- I only messed up at the very end of the secret level.
Double Edit: The patch only works for keen 1... so I guess we'll just have to sit tight until someone can make one for the others. |
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tulip
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 19:45 Post subject: |
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woo, started right away. I'm up to the green city, and only left 100 points behind so far.
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Stealthy71088
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 17:04 Post subject: |
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| If you're referring in that one corner in the capital city, I missed that too. |
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Fleexy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 13:58 Post subject: |
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I'm going to start a run now...
IIRC that lollipop in the far-left corner is unreachable.
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Xarthok
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:44 Post subject: |
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Whatever happened to this? Seemed like a fun challenge!
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Stealthy71088
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 20:19 Post subject: |
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| Feel free- I'll be happy to compete with you. These patches can also be applied to any of the K1-3 mods. |
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Eros
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 19:56 Post subject: |
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you should disallow impossible bullet, using it you can finish ~4 levels in K6 with minimal effort.
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Stealthy71088
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:06 Post subject: |
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| Eros wrote: | | you should disallow impossible bullet, using it you can finish ~4 levels in K6 with minimal effort. |
While that's true, its the score that matters, not level completion. To get a high score, you have to go everywhere and grab everything without dying, and the impossible bullet trick only helps with that so much. Shortcuts would only hurt your score.
Also, since everyone who enters can use the impossible bullet trick, it is still perfectly fair. And since it actually requires some skill to pull off- I have some trouble doing it sometimes- it seems a shame not to allow it.
Also there still isn't a patch in existence that resets the score for 4,5,6, so we can't really use Keen6 for this competition yet anyway. |
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troublesomekeen
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 23:15 Post subject: Re: High Score Competition with patch |
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| Stealthy71088 wrote: | | Anyway, Lemm, if you read this, could you PLEASE make a version of the patch for galaxy? |
Ah, a patch like this for galaxy would be awesome--not only for competitions but for mod-making in general.
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Levack
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 22:10 Post subject: |
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I played Galaxy by saving before entering a level.If I died,Reload,turned on no clipping, ran to the edge of the map,died,"Try again",save.
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Keen1: 407400
Keen2:413400
Keen3:
Dreams: 117300
Keen4: 145500
Keen5: 927800
K6DEMO:114400
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Levellass
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 14:34 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Ah, a patch like this for galaxy would be awesome--not only for competitions but for mod-making in general. |
Alas, all we have is this:
| Code: | #Reset Keen's score to 0 on dying (But not game over.)
%patch $66BB $C7 $06 $7A50W $0000W $90 $90 $90 $90 $90
%patch $672D $BF $0001W $C7 $06 $7A52W $0000W $90 |
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Levack
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 22:11 Post subject: |
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I got 407400 for Keen1 
For Keen4 I got 145500
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I got 927800 in Keen 5.
May these patches be used? 
#Keen can 'impossible bullet' in Keen 5
%patch $DD6C $0006W
#Keen can 'impossible bullet' in Keen 4
%patch $E63C $0F $00
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Keen1: 407400
Keen2:413400
Keen3:
Dreams: 117300
Keen4: 145500
Keen5: 927800
K6DEMO:114400
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Keening_Product
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:31 Post subject: |
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I suggest no: It's not the original game.
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Levack
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 14:05 Post subject: |
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The patch only works for keen1! 
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Keen1: 407400
Keen2:413400
Keen3:
Dreams: 117300
Keen4: 145500
Keen5: 927800
K6DEMO:114400
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ckguy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 15:47 Post subject: |
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I didn't know there were patches to put the impossible bullet bug into Keens 4 and 5!
More on topic though: I'd completely forgotten about this patch/competition. I think I'll try this sometime in the near future. Keen 1 is an easy enough game that trying to get All The Points shouldn't be too frustrating. Famous last words, I know, but I do intend to try this out. |
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