Public Commander Keen Forum

[wiivn]

Not so fast. The full version is not out yet and this is just a public demo. There may be an option for adults to enable that in the full version. If there won't be, then some modders will add the blood, the nudity and the ability to carry more than 2 weapons. As for the level design, I don't see the lack of ability to jump over a bath as a major flaw.

The levels actually do brings memory from the past game. The toilets, the walls, the posters, the stadium.... The only major flaw I see is the lack of enough destruct-able elements as you point out. But I also give that to the fact that the second level in the demo is most probably one of the first 3D realms ever made when they switched the engine. Those years destruct-able environments were so-so, not as they're making them today.

What exactly do you mean by "level interactivity that we had IN THE EARLY 1990S IN DOS!?" Put example or two because I don't get what interactivity exactly you're talking about. Jeez, we just saw two small levels, we didn't saw the whole big game.

About the ego meter. Yeah this idea kinda sucks, but you've got a better one? I don't think finding medikits lying all around the dessert really appropriate.

And the autosave feature, that some said adds console taste - well that just saves to you the save/load procedures you otherwise have to do. So not a big deal.

Btw you can speeding up by pressing the shift key if you haven't figure that out. And probably the multiplayer will be more fast paced.

So anyway, it's too earyl to judge the final game when it's not out yet. I bet that despite it's flaws (because of the long development time) the game will offer some hell of experience that not COD, not BF or any other modern shooter can offer these days.

[ALMN]

[RoboBlue]

[Paramultart]

Here is an extremely reasonable and honest review from someone who, like me, desperately wanted to enjoy the game, but couldn't help but feel very let down and couldn't get past the obvious design flaws and modernization of Duke. I have enjoyed this guy's commentaries in the past, and his review video has over 200,000 views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6MjzgTZriw

The video starts out fairly optimistic, but eventually goes on to say that while they captured the aesthetics, attitude and humor of Duke, they completely ruined everything that made Duke Nukem fun, and also how it didn't even feel like he was playing a Duke game. He winds up making a lot of the same points that I have, particularly how Gearbox ruined the game because they were too scared not to conform to the modern shooter style, and how the two weapon limit is a huge flaw that you cannot simply ignore. He also, like basically everyone else who actually played the game, compared it to Halo, because it is undeniably influenced.

"Conclusion: It's alright. It's just unpleasantly average, which nobody really wanted of Duke Nukem. Gearbox has made some really stupid design decisions in this game, and has potentially ruined it."
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[_mr_m_]

Para,

We have to face the fact that Duke is irrelevant anymore. This game took *way* too long to deliver.

After playing the demo, it seems like Gearbox decided to make Duke mass-marketable for the "Modern Warfare/Halo/etc" generation of gamers. It just seems thats the way the wind is blowing these days...

Gearbox has pretty much taken a giant sh*t on the faces of 3DRealms, the Duke Nukem legacy, and all the fans who *actually* cared and believed in the project...


/end rant
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[TerminILL]

it's a fucling game
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[RoboBlue]

I haven't played the demo, but to be fair DNF's task was a daunting one. The original Duke 3D pulled in gamers who thought Doom was stupid and tedious (like I did) with humor and charm. Even if this Duke steals stuff from Halo (something I wouldn't notice or care about), does the cheesy humor and quality level design make up for that?
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[DHeadshot]

Wiivn is right - modders will fix it...
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[Paramultart]

[RoboBlue]