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wiivn Vorticon Elite
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:33 Post subject: 440 hz vs 432 hz and other frequencies |
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There are some interesting things to investigate about the 440 hz that is the main standard. Not that mp3s by themselves have anything to do with that standard, but some say that the 432 hz frequency was re-programmed to 440 hz by a nazi officer back in the 1939. He knew that the 432 hz resonant frequency is the only one that have perfect harmony balance. Verdi and other classic musicians were using the 432 hz frequency. The 432 hz frequency is the only resonant frequency that is capable of naturally reproducing what is called the "Pythagorian Musical Spiral". It's the same sequence of growth that all life follows. It utilizes the formula of "Phi" also know as the "Golden Mean" and is also found in the "Fibonnaci sequence".
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a-432=perfect harmonic balance=good
a-440= cosmic static/noise/distortion from an unbalanced wave structure=bad
So after reading lot of stuff, I think you can try and change the pitch by -0.317 steps to achieve the 432 hz frequency. You can use Audacity to change your mp3s to be in that frequency or use a plug-in for winamp.
But there are some other frequencies as well. For example the 528 hz, which is considered to be a DNA repair one.
More on this subject:
http://www.solfeggiotones.com/432-hz/
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_tuning_hist.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLhegBf_TkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q&feature=player_embedded
http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/39682403 |
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kuliwil Blue-tongued Yorp

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 13:02 Post subject: |
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So you're saying that setting an MP3 to that frequency will be the equiv. of lossless or something altogether different? (I've not read the links, just your explanation.)
As for DNA repair: I think we'd all know about it if that were possible! _________________ "Hi, I'm Tom Sellick's moustache."
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elecdude33 Mad Mushroom

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RoboBlue It's that one guy.

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Are you saying that not only was there a Nazi plot to make music sound slightly worse, but there's a magical frequency at which music can cure cancer?
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Flaose Vorticon Elder

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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 21:08 Post subject: |
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| wiivn wrote: | | some say that the 432 hz frequency was re-programmed to 440 hz by a nazi officer back in the 1939. |
And some say that the Jews caused 9/11.
I find it very interesting that many of these sites mis-quote the Schiller Institute, saying that Verdi's Pitch was A=432Hz when it was actually 430.5 Hz.
As for the Nazi's changing the standard from 432 Hz, it's total garg. The French set a standard of A=435 in 1800s, and the Austrians followed suit some later. If the Nazi's changed anything, it would have been that standard. In 1936 the American Standards Association recommended A=440, and in 1955 A=440 Hz became ISO 16.
The idea of Pythagorean tuning is nice, but excuse me if I'm skeptical of sites that claim that but changing the tuning of an instrument I can heal water and cure cancer.... _________________ Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs.
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DHeadshot Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 0:14 Post subject: |
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| Flaose wrote: | | wiivn wrote: | | some say that the 432 hz frequency was re-programmed to 440 hz by a nazi officer back in the 1939. |
And some say that the Jews caused 9/11.
I find it very interesting that many of these sites mis-quote the Schiller Institute, saying that Verdi's Pitch was A=432Hz when it was actually 430.5 Hz.
As for the Nazi's changing the standard from 432 Hz, it's total garg. The French set a standard of A=435 in 1800s, and the Austrians followed suit some later. If the Nazi's changed anything, it would have been that standard. In 1936 the American Standards Association recommended A=440, and in 1955 A=440 Hz became ISO 16.
The idea of Pythagorean tuning is nice, but excuse me if I'm skeptical of sites that claim that but changing the tuning of an instrument I can heal water and cure cancer.... | Exactly what I was thinking. Wiivn, stop believing conspiracy theories online. The only pieces of Nazi thinking we as a planet have kept are the few good ideas they ever had, like motoring for the people and promotion of the olympics (they had a couple more good ideas but we didn't bother keeping those). _________________ Cereal Board!
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lemm Blorb

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thehackercat Yorp Doctor

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Is there actually any relation between something oscillating at 435 hz and the Fibonacci Sequence? None of this stuff looks credible, and I should know.
However, I didn't know all that stuff about A=440.. |
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kuliwil Blue-tongued Yorp

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:12 Post subject: |
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| thehackercat wrote: | | Is there actually any relation between something oscillating at 435 hz and the Fibonacci Sequence? None of this stuff looks credible, and I should know. |
Depends whose opium-driven writings you've been reading. _________________ "Hi, I'm Tom Sellick's moustache."
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DHeadshot Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:06 Post subject: |
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| thehackercat wrote: | Is there actually any relation between something oscillating at 435 hz and the Fibonacci Sequence? None of this stuff looks credible, and I should know.
However, I didn't know all that stuff about A=440.. | I just worked out the Fibonacci Sequence, ending in the number that closest fits the idea of 435:
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55
89
144
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377
610
987
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2584
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75025
121393
196418
317811
514229
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1346269
2178309
3524578
5702887
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kuliwil Blue-tongued Yorp

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 13:06 Post subject: |
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IT'S THE KEEN SEQUENCE!
IT'S JUST AS VALID AS THE IDEA OF REPAIRING DNA! KEEN EXISTS IN MATHS! _________________ "Hi, I'm Tom Sellick's moustache."
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RoboBlue It's that one guy.

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Hold on a second...
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TerminILL Skypest

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They're sneaky, those Nazis. _________________
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thehackercat Yorp Doctor

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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:28 Post subject: |
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| DHeadshot wrote: | I just worked out the Fibonacci Sequence, ending in the number that closest fits the idea of 435:
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