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440 hz vs 432 hz and other frequencies

 
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wiivn
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:33    Post subject: 440 hz vs 432 hz and other frequencies Reply with quote

There are some interesting things to investigate about the 440 hz that is the main standard. Not that mp3s by themselves have anything to do with that standard, but some say that the 432 hz frequency was re-programmed to 440 hz by a nazi officer back in the 1939. He knew that the 432 hz resonant frequency is the only one that have perfect harmony balance. Verdi and other classic musicians were using the 432 hz frequency. The 432 hz frequency is the only resonant frequency that is capable of naturally reproducing what is called the "Pythagorian Musical Spiral". It's the same sequence of growth that all life follows. It utilizes the formula of "Phi" also know as the "Golden Mean" and is also found in the "Fibonnaci sequence".

So:
a-432=perfect harmonic balance=good
a-440= cosmic static/noise/distortion from an unbalanced wave structure=bad

So after reading lot of stuff, I think you can try and change the pitch by -0.317 steps to achieve the 432 hz frequency. You can use Audacity to change your mp3s to be in that frequency or use a plug-in for winamp.

But there are some other frequencies as well. For example the 528 hz, which is considered to be a DNA repair one.

More on this subject:
http://www.solfeggiotones.com/432-hz/
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_tuning_hist.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLhegBf_TkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q&feature=player_embedded
http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/39682403
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 13:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you're saying that setting an MP3 to that frequency will be the equiv. of lossless or something altogether different? (I've not read the links, just your explanation.)

As for DNA repair: I think we'd all know about it if that were possible!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 13:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like something Tool might write a song about.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 18:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying that not only was there a Nazi plot to make music sound slightly worse, but there's a magical frequency at which music can cure cancer?
*mindblown*
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 21:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

wiivn wrote:
some say that the 432 hz frequency was re-programmed to 440 hz by a nazi officer back in the 1939.


And some say that the Jews caused 9/11.

I find it very interesting that many of these sites mis-quote the Schiller Institute, saying that Verdi's Pitch was A=432Hz when it was actually 430.5 Hz.

As for the Nazi's changing the standard from 432 Hz, it's total garg. The French set a standard of A=435 in 1800s, and the Austrians followed suit some later. If the Nazi's changed anything, it would have been that standard. In 1936 the American Standards Association recommended A=440, and in 1955 A=440 Hz became ISO 16.

The idea of Pythagorean tuning is nice, but excuse me if I'm skeptical of sites that claim that but changing the tuning of an instrument I can heal water and cure cancer....
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 0:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaose wrote:
wiivn wrote:
some say that the 432 hz frequency was re-programmed to 440 hz by a nazi officer back in the 1939.


And some say that the Jews caused 9/11.

I find it very interesting that many of these sites mis-quote the Schiller Institute, saying that Verdi's Pitch was A=432Hz when it was actually 430.5 Hz.

As for the Nazi's changing the standard from 432 Hz, it's total garg. The French set a standard of A=435 in 1800s, and the Austrians followed suit some later. If the Nazi's changed anything, it would have been that standard. In 1936 the American Standards Association recommended A=440, and in 1955 A=440 Hz became ISO 16.

The idea of Pythagorean tuning is nice, but excuse me if I'm skeptical of sites that claim that but changing the tuning of an instrument I can heal water and cure cancer....
Exactly what I was thinking. Wiivn, stop believing conspiracy theories online. The only pieces of Nazi thinking we as a planet have kept are the few good ideas they ever had, like motoring for the people and promotion of the olympics (they had a couple more good ideas but we didn't bother keeping those).
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might as well buy yourself a Q-ray ionized bracelet and start praying at the church of the Time Cube.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there actually any relation between something oscillating at 435 hz and the Fibonacci Sequence? None of this stuff looks credible, and I should know.

However, I didn't know all that stuff about A=440..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

thehackercat wrote:
Is there actually any relation between something oscillating at 435 hz and the Fibonacci Sequence? None of this stuff looks credible, and I should know.


Depends whose opium-driven writings you've been reading.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

thehackercat wrote:
Is there actually any relation between something oscillating at 435 hz and the Fibonacci Sequence? None of this stuff looks credible, and I should know.

However, I didn't know all that stuff about A=440..
I just worked out the Fibonacci Sequence, ending in the number that closest fits the idea of 435:
Code:
        0
        1
        1
        2
        3
        5
        8
       13
       21
       34
       55
       89
      144
      233
      377
      610
      987
     1597
     2584
     4181
     6765
    10946
    17711
    28657
    46368
    75025
   121393
   196418
   317811
   514229
   832040
  1346269
  2178309
  3524578
  5702887
  9227465
 14930352
 24157817
 39087169
 63247986
102335155
165583141
267918296
433501437

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

DHeadshot wrote:

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  2178309
  3524578
  5702887
  9227465
 14930352
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 39087169
 63247986
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267918296
433501437

DHeadshot wrote:

Code:

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DHeadshot wrote:

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Holy Crap!
IT'S THE KEEN SEQUENCE!
IT'S JUST AS VALID AS THE IDEA OF REPAIRING DNA! KEEN EXISTS IN MATHS!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 20:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold on a second...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 0:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're sneaky, those Nazis.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

DHeadshot wrote:
I just worked out the Fibonacci Sequence, ending in the number that closest fits the idea of 435:
Code:
        0
        1
        1
        2
        3
        5
        8
       13
       21
       34
       55
       89
      144
      233
      377
      610
      987
     1597
     2584
     4181
     6765
    10946
    17711
    28657
    46368
    75025
   121393
   196418
   317811
   514229
   832040
  1346269
  2178309
  3524578
  5702887
  9227465
 14930352
 24157817
 39087169
 63247986
102335155
165583141
267918296
433501437

Code:
        0
        1
        1
        2
        3
        5
        8
       1   3
       2   1
       3   4
     

ANOTHER ONE!
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