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VikingBoyBilly Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 15:33 Post subject: Tom Hall on unofficial TUIT |
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I had a small exchange with the big Tom on fb, and he agreed to let me share this statement with you guys:
So there you have it. He's slightly out of touch, but not because he wants to be. Maybe by the time he retires he'll be making keen mods with the rest of us =) _________________
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Lava89 Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 15:43 Post subject: |
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Wow, this is all very cool! Thanks for doing this!
I find it really interesting that he feels the fans are living his dream by making Keen. Its really tragic in a way.
It would be awesome if he did do some mods or even fangames (but then, would it really be a fangame?) when he retires. |
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Paramultart VBB's Partner in Crime

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 15:59 Post subject: |
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This is sufficiently awesome news.
While it doesn't really change anything, it's cool to see the creator of Keen give a nod of approval to the unofficial TUIT trilogy, as well as give his approval of modding in general.
I really hope he does get the rights to Keen.
I say we all spam John Carmack, demanding Keen justice. _________________ "Father Mabeuf was surveying his plants" |
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Keening_Product Kuliwho?

Joined: 20 Jan 2012 Posts: 707 Location: Tied up in the Oracle Chamber's basement
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 16:01 Post subject: |
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Wow, that was quite a response! I hope he enjoys playing them when he gets to - it'd probably be a weird experience to play mods of a game you made decades (assuming retirement is not in the next decade) ago.
Nice questions VBB.
I think Lava89 pogo'd the skypest on the head with his "tragic" interpretation.
Someone should email this thread to iD. _________________
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StupidBunny format c:

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 20:03 Post subject: |
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| Keening_Product wrote: | | Someone should email this thread to iD. |
I'm picturing Carmack reading this, a single tear running down his face and his heart growing three sizes and him throwing open the window to tell passersby that "The Universe is Toast" will be made after all and that Tom himself will help Carmack design it. It's a pretty funny image. _________________
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DHeadshot Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 20:25 Post subject: |
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| StupidBunny wrote: | | Keening_Product wrote: | | Someone should email this thread to iD. |
I'm picturing Carmack reading this, a single tear running down his face and his heart growing three sizes and him throwing open the window to tell passersby that "The Universe is Toast" will be made after all and that Tom himself will help Carmack design it. It's a pretty funny image. | Really? I'm picturing a bunch of "Cease and Desist" letters arriving at every Keen fansite on the planet for creating mods... _________________ Cereal Board!
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Cereal Wiki! |
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 20:52 Post subject: |
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| DHeadshot wrote: | | Really? I'm picturing a bunch of "Cease and Desist" letters arriving at every Keen fansite on the planet for creating mods... |
Yeah but that's too realistic a scenario to be funny  _________________
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Scarlet Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:16 Post subject: |
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How do we know that Hall cares at all about DOS games anymore?
| Paramultart wrote: | | I say we all spam John Carmack, demanding Keen justice. |
I think that is a terrible idea. First of all, Keen would have never been made had it not been for him. He gave life to keen.
Second, I think that we are doing a far better job at giving keen more than enough justice with mods and discussing keen stuff than ANY company EVER could.
| Quote: | | Yeah but that's too realistic a scenario to be funny Cheeky |
I have seen fan games get shut down. Very promising fan games, because of cease and desist.
Therefore this scenario is very realistic.
Basically Carmak gave keen life before, and he chooses to give keen life now. Or maybe he doesn't care. Maybe both. The point is that he can kill the community so fast if he wanted to. He has not, therefore we have nothing to complain about. _________________ Join us for netkeen! irc://irc.foonetic.net/netkeen
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| Quote: | | Ha, you really are a fucling legend aren't you you neocon netnanny. |
| Quote: | | By jove... You have exceptional taste in games, Scarlet! |
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Lava89 Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:33 Post subject: |
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Thanks Keening_Product!
| Scarlet wrote: | | How do we know that Hall cares at all about DOS games anymore? |
Well he has to care about Keen, since he has said many times that Keen as a character is an extension of his childhood. Now does he care about DOS Gaming in general? I'm not sure, but does it matter?
I think the most important thing is that the team who made Keen 7-9 got, at the very least, a small acknowledgement. Which to me, also means that us as a community was acknowledged by one of the co-creators of Keen. That has to be awesome for that reason alone-- regardless if there will be official Keen games down the road. Wouldn't any fanbase want that?
| Scarlet wrote: | | I think that is a terrible idea. First of all, Keen would have never been made had it not been for him. He gave life to keen. |
I hope you saw the humor in Paramault's post.  |
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:17 Post subject: |
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| Scarlet wrote: | I have seen fan games get shut down. Very promising fan games, because of cease and desist.
Therefore this scenario is very realistic. |
My point exactly.  _________________
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Commander Spleen Lord of the Foobs

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 14:31 Post subject: |
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I think it would be pretty amazing if in 10 years he finally sits down to play the mods and finds as much enjoyment and fascination as we all did from his (team's) original work. It would have to well and truly make up for not having the opportunity to expand the series in the commercial realm. _________________ THIS POST IS IRREFUTABLE FACT |
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Scarlet Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:01 Post subject: |
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I think that any keen fan will find close to as much enjoyment in the games.
Oh, one more thing...
...I kinda suspect it might not be good to issue transcripts of discussions with people who did not give their consent to them being released. I think Hall didn't give consent to have this content here... it's not too important, but still, I'd never post an entire convo like that... _________________ Join us for netkeen! irc://irc.foonetic.net/netkeen
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| Quote: | | Ha, you really are a fucling legend aren't you you neocon netnanny. |
| Quote: | | By jove... You have exceptional taste in games, Scarlet! |
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Lava89 Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:04 Post subject: |
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| VikingBoyBilly wrote: | | he agreed to let me share this statement with you guys |
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Scarlet Vorticon Elite

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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 19:23 Post subject: |
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| Lava89 wrote: | | VikingBoyBilly wrote: | | he agreed to let me share this statement with you guys |
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I missed that. :P _________________ Join us for netkeen! irc://irc.foonetic.net/netkeen
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| Quote: | | Ha, you really are a fucling legend aren't you you neocon netnanny. |
| Quote: | | By jove... You have exceptional taste in games, Scarlet! |
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Paramultart VBB's Partner in Crime

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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:56 Post subject: |
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A lot seems to get lost in translation with Scarlet. _________________ "Father Mabeuf was surveying his plants" |
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